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Page last updated: 12 April, 2004

Dear members of the vampire community and vampire/vampyre subculture,

There has been a lot of confusion about Sanguinarius and the Sanguinarium. Through this FAQ both Sanguinarius and Father Sebastiaan would like to clarify the differences.

What is the difference between Sanguinarius.org and the Sanguinarium?

Sanguinarius.org for Real Vampires / Sanguinarius: The Vampire Support Page (www.sanguinarius.org) was founded online in 1997 by Sanguinarius and is not a membership organization but provides resources, articles and information for, by, and about real vampires and the vampire community. Originally it was published on AOL, and became "Sanguinarius: The Vampire Support Page" after a brief time as merely "The Homepage of Sanguinarius". Before the days of the Internet, in the late '80s and early '90s, Sanguinarius operated offline within the realm of vampire fandom and penpal lists, attempting to find and unite real vampires.

Sanguinarius provides support, information, resources and community for real vampires, blood drinkers and vampiric people, as well as donors. It offers informational articles on a variety of subjects, including blood, feeding, safety and health precautions, psychic shielding techniques, and various social aspects that today's real vampires face. Part of the support page includes "Problems Vampires Have", to let visitors see that they are not alone in what they are going through, and "Fun Vampires Have", which displays the lighter side of being a vampire.

Sanguinarius is home to The Real Vampire Directory, a search engine and directory of real vampire sites, information, and resources. Sanguinarius provides interactive support, including the Vampiric Community Message Board, which contains much additional information that may not be included on the webpage, questions posted by visitors, and various ongoing discussions on a variety of topics. #Sanguinarius, an IRC channel on dal.net, provides an online community gathering spot where guests can meet and chat in real time, ask questions, hold discussions, or get support. Also provides The Vampiric Community Events Calendar, where users can view and post events of interest to the vampiric community: online chats, offline Gatherings, meet'n'greets, and other vampire-related events.

The Sanguinarium (www.sanguinarium.net) was and is a network, community and resource for the vampyre subculture and scene and was founded in 1995 as Clan Sabretooth in New York's underground club scene. It has expanded to include organizations, businesses, havens and individual members who are united under a code of ethics and morality known as The Black Veil (a.k.a. The Thirteen Rules of the Community). Although officially disbanded as an actual organization in, I believe, 2001 or 2002, the Sanguinarium continues to exist in practice. Anyone, including individuals and Houses, using the terminology and concepts provided by the founders, movers and shakers of the Sanguinarium is considered by them to be a part of the Sanguinarium, and now the Strigoii Vii.

Father Sebastiaan (formerly known as Father Todd) operates the Vampyre Almanac, which produces and promotes many club events, publishes and promotes various documents and books, and provides publicity for the Vampyre subculture and BDSM/fetish scene, often mingling the two to provide a unique aesthetic.

The newest venture to hit the scene is the Ordo Strigoii Vii (OSV), which is a dark spiritual pathway and Vampyric religion designed for the Vampyre subculture. The OSV is a recognized church in Amsterdam and is supported by the Church of Satan (CoS). (More information pending.)

What do you guys have such similar names?

Both words stem from the Latin root sanguinarius, meaning bloodthirsty. Sanguinarius started up in early 1997. The Sanguinarium did not go online fully until late 1997 and evolved from the New York underground Goth scene and vampire LARPs (live action role-playing).

How do we know the difference?

Sanguinarius Organization for Real Vampires is found at sanguinarius.org (organization). The Sanguinarium was (but is no longer) found at sanguinarium.net (network), and will probably forward to the Vampyre Almanac site, or the Ordo Strigoii Vii site, or the...actually, who knows? It's different every time I click on it.

You both follow the "13 rules" / Black Veil!

We both support the Black Veil as a great basis for common sense, etiquette and respect amongst the vampire/vampyre communities. The original version of the Black Veil was written in 1997 as a code of conduct for the vampyre nightclub Long Black Veil and revised by Michelle Belanger with both of our input.

Are you guys affiliated?

Sanguinarius.org is a completely separate entity from the Sanguinarium / Vampyre Almanac / Ordo Strigoii Vii, even though we have worked together in the past (on the Black Veil & the Lexicon). And though we have had our differences, they are resolved. We both hope to work towards the growth and prosperity of the vampire community and vampyre subculture. Together our goal is to set an example for harmony and cooperation between the diverse aspects of our communities.

All the best,

Sanguinarius,
Founder & Webmistress,
Sanguinarius.org for Real Vampires / Sanguinarius: The Vampire Support Page
Sanguinarius@sanguinarius.org

Father Sebastiaan Todd
Founding Father,
The Sanguinarium.Net
FatherSebastianV@aol.com

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